Doctors are brainwashed to CYA...
At 10:18 AM 10/11/2005, you wrote:
Doctors can be so negative at times and set us up to die because
THEY don't know what to do.
Xxxx and ALL,
I suspect it is more of CYA than not knowing what to do. Liability and Malpractice insurance requires Doctors to CYA more than anything else.
My understanding is Doctors don't want their patients to die and they don't want to set them up to die. Many of the Doctors I deal with and work with, their main goal is to provide healing answers in a way that makes them money through the practice of conventional medicine and their biggest fear is the fear of not disclosing enough and getting sued or missing something or being seconded quested and getting sued or referring to someone else and getting sued because they referred the patience.
They don't want to refer to Alternative or Complimentary Medicines for two main reasons #1 is insurance and #2 is most Alternative or Complimentary Medicines do not bill insurance. A third reason is they want to make sure the patience gets referred back to them after they have been referred out (they have to trust you).
If the Alternative Or Complimentary Medicines would get insurance coverage (High dollar) and bill insurance more physicians would refer to them. It is the same issue that faces MRI companies, Chiropractors, Physical Therapy Co., Pain Management Clinics, Home Health, Assisted Living, DME, etc.. Those that get liability and malpractice in the high dollar range and can accept insurance (the more insurance companies the better) get referrals from MD's and hospitals.
A discharge nurse or social worker at a hospital is looking a company that takes the patients insurance and is licensed by the state. Why, because they have to CYA against being sued.
And with all the CYA going on medical law suits are at an all time high.
From my POV it is a mind-set that we are addressing. It is an education process. It is the same mind-set that Dr. John has always addressed in all his mailings, on all his groups and most of his writings, and that is the mind-set of being at cause or being at effect and how you language your encounters to give people the choice to learn how to be at cause.
Any of the Energy Psychologies, Energy Medicines, Healing and Therapies, including Zpoint can be very effective with most people if we can get passed their compulsion to believe in their belief. How did we stretch our beliefs to encompass other possibilities?
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Cancerous man brainwashed by his MD
On 10/10/05, kahunamaker wrote:
His answer, "My doctor told me that it was impossible to enhance or
improve your immune system. If you tried you'd just waste your
money. All you can do is try to stop it from getting worse!"
So, group, what would you say to this man?
Why is the medical doctor telling him that?
Doc Xxxx,
My suspension is the MD is set in his ways and may have even tried or read about other ideas of improving the immune system. I also suspect he relies on write ups in official Medical publications showing that these other ways do not work. There are probably write ups in the same publications that indicate immune system improvement this MD just hasn't read them yet.
The MD is telling his patient what he believes to be true because the MD has been brainwashed by his training and what he considers credible sources. (This is one possible conjecture.)
What would I say to the man?
It would probably be some sort of agreement and counter example along the lines of, "You are right to believe your doctor. At the turn of the century the best way to stop the immune system from getting worse was to use leeches. After they discovered better ways for a long time MD's were still using leeches until they learned of the better ways that other's had already found."
"Going with what your MD said, here let me show you a way that will stop your immune system from getting worse and we can prove it will stop it from getting worse by using your own body as the tester (energy testing). Once we stop it from getting worse let's see how strong we can keep it at the point where we stop it."
Take the client where they are and over deliverer. Help them stop their immune system from getting worse and at the same time build it up by giving the exercises that build the immune system but allow the client to believe it is stopping and keeping the immune system from getting worse.
After using what the MD told the client and allowing the client to experience in his body the effects we could then energy test for improvement, if we chose too because now we have more than "the authority says, I say..." we have actual testable results.
Instead of trying to get the gentleman to turn 90 to 180% consciously, simply agree with where he is and give him the energy drills that turn him in the most useful direction while consciously doing what his brainwashing is telling him. There is always more than one way to un-wash or re-wash a brain.
Of course we would have to decide if we were willing to take the time, energy and effort to do all that it takes to get this done or we could come up with stories of "why" (talk negatively) MD's, the medical profession, drug companies and others are greedy and only out for the money. How they are bad, they don't know, they should be ashamed, etc.
While the Medical community continues to do what they are comfortable with and what they belief to be true of course they are doing what they do for their own selfish reason. Just as the Alternative or Complimentary Medicine community does what we do for our own selfish reason. Both communities can come up with justifications (stories) why one is better than the other and we can work on blending the two together.
And yet, I suspect the biggest advances will be made when we are flexible enough to take where the people are and give them not only what they believe is possible but give them more.
As of yet I'm not flexible enough to get everyone on board and yet I get to keep looking for new ways to join them where they are and meet and exceed their expectations.
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