One thing that comes to mind for me is this: what is Matrix Energetics without Quantum phraseology? There's been a lot of talk about explanation and metaphor, but could there be any such activity as Matrix Energetics (ing) without Quantum Phraseology? Is Quantum phraseology part of its process, irrespective of whether people are satisfied reflecting upon it under the terms used in the reality it constructs? Or is the practice divorceable from this phraseology?
Am curious is all..
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Just my opinion,
I guess it could be. I suspect if one were to use Spiritual phraseology or magic phraseology instead and yet each one if these phraseology's have their own inherit limitations just as the Quantum phraseology seems too.
I know Richard Bartlett is very well versed in QP (over 60-100 books and research in the field) and is changing his understanding of his own model at present, moving even further out with 4 aspect based theory rather than two aspect based theory (i.e Thomas Bearden "Excalibur Briefing") He is working on incorporating anti-gravity, anti-matter, etc. into the model explanation. I'm even less versed in this aspect of Physics/Quantum Physics than what little I know of it at present.
My suspension, and I only have my filters to speak through, is that the Quantum phraseology would seem to have the least amount of limitations, (resistance, baggage) so to speak as it is not USUALLY so emotionally charged when discussed.
Again, I suspect more folks have definite set attitudes, beliefs, etc in regards to religious/spiritual or magical phraseology than they do in regards to Quantum phraseology. My suspicion is they have already made up their minds where religious/spiritual or magical terms, practices and limitations are concerned and less so as far as Quantum Physics goes.
As far as ME without QP I like the Abraham-Hicks model as it talks about spiritual phraseology from more of a structure/process POV which has a tendency to negate or lessen the emotional charge and present practical strategies and yet there are some where the emotional charge is still pretty strong and that is probably why they use the presupposition/belief A-H is only for those who are being attracted to it. (Vibrational Relativity so to speak.)
Where ME goes beyond A-H is the immediacy of change and the shift of vibration from low to high in a matter of moments . Where A-H uses alignment of belief (thought) and feeling (emotion) to create change which unfolds over time (and it can be a very short time when one has practiced aligning thoughts and feelings), ME goes to work on the level where space/time and matter are all made up and made out of photons (light and information). Or at least that is the belief that one works from.
So my thought is if one where not going to use a Quantum phraseology, a miracle or Alchemy phraseology may be in order or a useful phraseology. Now here is the twist for me. In my model (I know it is not real, just my model) the how (not the what or why) of miracles and Alchemy is explained by QP. At least that is how I logically map over the process.
To Your Best,
Doc
Apologies all around... - HypnosisForum.com and AmPac.edu Community Forums
Hello All,
I want to publicly apologies to anyone I have offended in the discussion about Matrix and Quantum Physics being a less than useful metaphor or even a structural explanation of Matrix Energetics.
The reason for my apology is not that we had disagreement(s) the reason for my apology is I didn't know or understand what was being triggered in me when others made statements that QP wasn't a good _____ (metaphor or explanation) for Matrix.
All I could think was it may not be and yet it may be I just don't know for sure and why disregard something just because one doesn't like the metaphor or explanation! Would we change our mind if we knew more about QP or ME? (That was what was going on inside me.)
Then today I read in a thread where making a decision not to listen to someone that was helping just because one doesn't like the sound of their voice is less than useful. That's the same feeling and sentiment I was attempting (poorly) to get across in the ME-QP discussion.
Now the Universe/God/Source/Matrix is so cool. Even before I read the post this morning that said, "Hmmm. They won't listen to someone because they don't like his voice. I wonder who they won't listen to next..." and saw the connection between that and what I was originally attempting to get across, Source had already given me one of the main pieces that had triggered me.
I wish I could say it was during a time of deep meditation that this came to me but I can't. I was just about to go to sleep and the statement came "So I'm not based on QP, then it is time to change my name."
Then it hit me one of the main reasons I was triggered and didn't know why is the name and term "Matrix" is a QP term for what is called "Zero Point Field", or "Unity Field". The term Matrix is Quantum phraseology. When reading the book the explanation is that Matrix refers to the connectivity of everything that is termed the Zero Point Field. And as Greg Braden refers to as the "mind of God". (All of which is Quantum speak)
Now folks can still state and believe that QP is not a good explanation or metaphor for ME (It may or may not be) and they are welcome to do that. I just now know one of the unconscious triggers I had to such a definitive statement.
Again I apologize if I was not able to get my points across and now I know one of the unconscious motivators for even suggesting of including the QP model as a possibility and not disregarding it out of hand.
I remember the first time I heard Richard Bandler's voice and I thought this doesn't sound like the voice I had imagined it's kinda nasally and the amazing thing is WHEN I woke it after he got done, I thought his voice is just right.
To Your Best,
Doc Houston
